tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post4001564015430105977..comments2024-02-18T20:30:02.769-08:00Comments on Historically Obsessed : BELOVED PILGRIM Author Nan Hawthorne on "Gay People in Historical Novels"Lizziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06610444517085989215noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-82505173062283453772011-05-17T15:02:05.275-07:002011-05-17T15:02:05.275-07:00Librarypat, eekk I hope everything is well on the ...Librarypat, eekk I hope everything is well on the home front now though. How scarey I am such a wuss I would have a heart attack. I agree all the way with you Pat that is it not something you catch and that some people are very insecure even in their reading material. I am pretty lucky that Oregon is very liberal it is part of the reason I never moved away. I am just glad that Nan and some of the authors she listed are voicing themselves because there is a want for more.Lizziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06610444517085989215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-14565323784766854392011-05-15T09:02:54.399-07:002011-05-15T09:02:54.399-07:00I am so far behind on many of the posts I follow. ...I am so far behind on many of the posts I follow. Blame the TN tornadoes. <br />I have always had a hard time understanding why a part of society is so continuously marginalized. The feeling I get from many who cannot accept the homosexual segment of society is they feel threatened and not secure in their own sexual identity. Wake up, it isn't something you can catch. We live in the heart of the Southern Bible Belt, and it isn't even something you can have an intelligent and rational discussion about. The interesting thing is, the percentage of the population that is "gay" is larger than in many other areas of the country. Why shouldn't gay characters be included in mainstream fiction? They are and always have been part of society, playing as an important a role as everyone else. Their personal relationships and stories have as much validity as anyone else's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-4629389451532274362011-05-10T11:04:31.494-07:002011-05-10T11:04:31.494-07:00Nan you are so sweet to help out. I too want to re...Nan you are so sweet to help out. I too want to read Brandy's Confessions of Piers Gaveston just because I feel I must satisfy my curiosity. Eloquently stated Anne and a very very true motto to live life by.<br /><br />Catherine, so true I am always in search of strong women in HF gay or straight it is actually what drew me into it in the first place. Thank you for the visit too it is much appreciated and a pleasure. <br /><br />Alex, true very true, thank you for paying a visit and enlightening some of us here. <br /><br />Nan, thank you for the lovely guest post and luring in Catherine and Alex. I see it that love sees no bounds might it be sex, race, or what ever. We love who we love and their is no denying that. I am more than happy to support HF that is diverse because with out diversity every novel would be the same and that would kill me with boredom. Congrats Nan on the release.Lizziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06610444517085989215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-78435794754659182452011-05-07T18:40:32.531-07:002011-05-07T18:40:32.531-07:00Two great places to start including gay people in ...Two great places to start including gay people in your historical fiction reading is Alex Beecroft's and Catherine M. Wilson's books!!<br /><br />Someone pointed out a glaring omission in my article.. Ruth Sims downright gorgeously written The Phoenix and Counterpoint: Dylan's Story... two of the most beautifully written romances you will ever find. And as someone said , Ruth can put more eroticism into a scene of a man dropping a hat on a bed than most people can put into explicit sex scenes of any persuasion.Kit mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03991738631295745319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-58967745386709855022011-05-06T16:01:34.543-07:002011-05-06T16:01:34.543-07:00Thanks for the mention, Nan :) I think you're...Thanks for the mention, Nan :) I think you're right - there have always been gay people as well as straight throughout history. That being so, why should all the heroes have to be straight? Let's see some equal representation for everyone.Alex Beecrofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08846917051472819570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-37632738802418636342011-05-06T12:23:41.300-07:002011-05-06T12:23:41.300-07:00Re: heterosexual readers of glbt fiction
A hetero...Re: heterosexual readers of glbt fiction<br /><br />A heterosexual friend of mine recently started reading through my collection of lesbian fiction, mostly romance, but other stuff too. Her most telling remark about it was: <br />How come you can't find strong women like these in straight fiction?!?!<br /><br />Catherine M Wilson<br />http://whenwomenwerewarriors.com/Catherine M Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06780172018191197005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-85363528895136770822011-05-06T11:55:39.738-07:002011-05-06T11:55:39.738-07:00Hey Kimberly,
You may not expect this particular ...Hey Kimberly,<br /><br />You may not expect this particular response from me, but I know how to do all that stuff and will happily answer questions.. hawthorne at nanhawthorne dot com .<br /><br />Howard, you should read Purdy's The Confession of Piers Gaveston.<br /><br />Also, I will be sorry if there are people who will let their bias against people who are gay influence their reading. The fact is that gay people are part of the human landscape ... always have been, always will be, and if you will read about other people in groups you don't approve of, why not gays and lesbians? Try "judge not that ye be not judged".<br /><br />Thanks for your comments everyone.. Beloved Pilgrim has a lesbian protagonist, but it's central theme is being who you really are and seeing how your culture's values act in the real world.<br /><br />Nan Hawthorne<br />www.nanhawthorne.comKit mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03991738631295745319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-65426364446509479422011-05-05T17:06:06.717-07:002011-05-05T17:06:06.717-07:00Michelle, I second that Edward II was for sure gay...Michelle, I second that Edward II was for sure gay in my mind there is no way that he was not. I saw a thing on the history channel on famous places and Edward came up because they were in the place where he was last held and more than likely murdered in that special flat out stated he was gay. "Follies of the King" by Jean Plaidy was a really spot on portrayal of him, the end was pretty nasty though. I really wanted to cover this topic on my blog because I know that some readers do have an issue with gay relationships in HF. I have to admit that if others do not want to read about it that is fine with me but the truth is gay people were in history and gay relationships did exist. I actually enjoy changing things up I read "The Boleyn Wife" by Brandy Purdy and it was WILD but I still really enjoyed it because it gave logic to Catherine Howard.<br /><br />Paula Lofting, cool I am glad you enjoyed it this post is a new favorite of mine. <br /><br />Hey Kimberly, I will have to check out your page but I promise I will get back to you and help ya out.Lizziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06610444517085989215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-72809778269110280142011-05-04T18:44:15.233-07:002011-05-04T18:44:15.233-07:00Hey..I know this is kind of random, but I've b...Hey..I know this is kind of random, but I've been following you on here for awhile, and I love you blog and how it's set up. <br />How in the world are you able to get the different tabs at the top and make it look so professional? Is there a site you could recommend to me? I am starting to get more followers, and I really want to make my blog look better! I'd appreciate it so much if you could help me out!!<br /><br />Thanks!<br />KimberlyKimberly Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11030300170686538894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-17434573114121642402011-05-04T00:42:17.337-07:002011-05-04T00:42:17.337-07:00Fascinating to read this blog. Food for thought fo...Fascinating to read this blog. Food for thought for my also.Paula Loftinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17138899684247746388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-2032141654761095092011-05-03T01:00:59.820-07:002011-05-03T01:00:59.820-07:00Very interesting topic. I, for one, do not have a...Very interesting topic. I, for one, do not have a problem with it and I agree that there had to be many more gays and lesbians in history than we know about. I, for one, am a firm believer that Edward II was gay. After seeing him portrayed in Braveheart, my favorite film, and discussed in The King's Mistress by Emma Campion, I cannot help but believe that he was.Michelle Stockard Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03572227726980569386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-59527654893738883472011-05-02T16:28:33.347-07:002011-05-02T16:28:33.347-07:00Mystica, I am glad you enjoyed the post!
Patty, s...Mystica, I am glad you enjoyed the post!<br /><br />Patty, so true right if there were people around then there has to be gay people too.Lizziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06610444517085989215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-68298201838957469302011-05-02T07:13:54.444-07:002011-05-02T07:13:54.444-07:00It only makes sense. You cannot tell me that gay p...It only makes sense. You cannot tell me that gay people sprang up in these last centuries...brokenteepeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06907414560986208401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2319886081447332049.post-66415279011323154262011-05-02T06:16:10.004-07:002011-05-02T06:16:10.004-07:00A new subject for me. Thank you for the post and t...A new subject for me. Thank you for the post and the links.Mysticahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10941269615559681014noreply@blogger.com